Say No to Johns Glades West – aka Uptown Boca

Update – The new developer is calling it Uptown Boca.

Image of Johns Glades West from zoning application

We took a hard look at the Johns Glades West proposal and we’re opposed. The Palm Beach County Commission approved this on April 26th. It might be too late to do anything about it, but we suggest you contact Commissioner Mary Lou Berger.
You can call her at 561-355-2205, or e-mail her at MBerger@pbcgov.org.
Developers plan to build a very dense project on the south side of Glades Road. The front on Glades would be a fairly large commercial plaza including a grocery store, a theater, restaurants and more.

Here’s the developer’s depiction of what it will look like:

The back part of the project is more disturbing and completely out of character for West Boca. It would include seven five-story buildings with over 450 apartments.

County zoning staff wrongly concluded this fits in with the existing development around it.
“Staff Analysis: The proposed amendment is consistent with the character and development pattern of the surrounding communities, which can be characterized as a built development pattern with higher density and higher intensity.”
This is ridiculous. Yes it’s true that the nearby commercial plazas are similar to the commercial part of the proposal. But neither Westwinds nor Shadowood have housing at all, much less 5-story towers packed with 10 apartments per floor.
Nothing around it would be nearly this dense. Look at this image:

The residential neighborhoods to the north, east, and southwest are far less dense with much more greenery. Same with the Jewish Federation campus to the south. Residents of Palma Vista, to the southwest, have legitimately complained about the R2 building (lower left) which will tower over the homes in the northeast end of their neighborhood.
The developer is seeking 12 residential units per acre for the whole 38 acres of the site, but that the county is ignoring the fact that half of those acres would be used for commercial space. So they’re really getting 24 residential units per acre.
There’s no space for trees, grass, etc., allotting less than two acres for a lake. All those hard surfaces with no green space means big stormwater runoff problems.
The apartment complex will consist of over 450 tiny apartments (we estimate an average size of 800 square feet) with minimal amenities. There isn’t even a pool in the plan.

Reading through the details of the submission (see pdf below) we see numerous agencies referencing their ability to handle the project at 300 residential units, with some saying that density would be a problem and others indicating issues. But the proposal is 450+ units, not just 300.

Johns Glades West

PDF Johns Glades West – Uptown Boca

For one thing, with 300 units it still fails the long range traffic test.

In other words it will create long term traffic problems on Glades Road, Lyons Road, and US-441.
According to the school district it will overcrowd Eagles Landing Middle School, and add a significant burden to both Olympic Heights and Sandpiper Shores. We all know how great the traffic is at Sandpiper Shores already.
Did you realize what the county was allowing to happen? Do you feel that Mary Lou Berger, your representative, communicated sufficiently with you about this?
Before writing this article we reached out to Ms. Berger and Ms. Scarborough. They did not respond.

Author: Warren Redlich

Warren Redlich is a real estate agent and an attorney. He focuses on selling homes in West Boca Raton. Find out more at Yes Boca Real Estate.

18 thoughts on “Say No to Johns Glades West – aka Uptown Boca”

  1. I understand the need for something to go there, it is unsightly and overgrown and is not aesthetically pleasing to that corner, but this sounds like way too much. Why another movie theatre, there is one across the street, and do we really need more housing with all the homes GL are building in the area! They can construct a few things but a little back further and with green space and nice landscaping on the corners, I think that would be fine.

    1. I agree, why overcrowded this area due to greed and additional investment properties. Hey, here’s a good idea…build further down on 441 after Clintmoore as this will eliminate an overflow of traffic in an already overpopulated Glades area filled with consumer traffic and deadly accidents with tie-ups. If you build it, they will come.

  2. This is absurd. There’s already a theatre, grocery stores, an abundance of housing, and plenty of restaurants within less than a mile of here! There is no sensible reason for this other than to stuff more money into the pockets of those that are already excessively”well off”. Why not add real value to the community by building a park or some type of community area?
    This area is clearly over developed already and the last thing we need is to pack more people into it. Thanks, Burger!

    1. “BUILD A PARK!” Ahh, the usual response from the anti-development crowd. You forget the fact South County Regional Park is right down the street, and older ones like Sandalfoot Cove and Veterans Memorial are in awful condition. Also, as a former farm, the property likely is loaded with toxins from pesticides, and only a developer has the money to clean it.

      1. I’m not anti-development, but this doesn’t add value to my area. It will only crowd it even more and in turn ultimately reduce overall quality of life in addition to home values. I don’t see anything wrong with adding another park or community center. It does more for the community than encouraging people to participate in more retail therapy or plopping them down in front of more screens.
        Terms like ‘Jew Compound’ show that you’re just an ignorant troll that gets off to offending others. I’m sorry that you’re so damaged…
        I’ve been here for 30 years so I know there was another movie theater across the street back in the ’90s. It got shut down for a reason.

        1. You fail to refute my points and go on with the same ill-informed and folksy assumptions, thus adding no value to this conversation whatsoever. Also, excuse me for not being politically correct about land which pays zero taxes, while an adjacent parcel can’t be redeveloped into something appropriate for what the land is worth, and pay taxes for your beloved parks.
          The movie theater closed because General Cinema Corporation went bankrupt. It was not shut down.

  3. Add to that the proposed building on the golf course property and we who live in West Boca will be stuck in traffic going two miles per hour. No no no

  4. R u kidding, we have enough traffic and apartments on 441!! To build bird housing that a is a shame! We don’t need a other movie house, food shop, we need a green space so ppl can enjoy, young and old. How about a nice book store so ppl in the west don’t have to go all the way East. No more traffic!!!

  5. This is a lame excuse to shove more unecessary, tiny and overpriced “housing” behind overcrowded plazas. This plan really needs revising. Movie theater size looks pathetic with everything squeezed, concreted over and forced in. Glades will be even more useless than it already is w overcrowded and underfunded schools unable to support. So tired of this privatized and negligent “money first” behavior…may have to get out of here soon 🙁

  6. This is an absolutely TERRIBLE idea. As if Glades Rd isn’t packed enough. People moved out of the North East to AVOID traffic and now a beautiful place like Boca is going to be just as money hungry and selfish to squeeze that many people in that small area. Think about HOW MANY CARS will be coming from people living in that complex alone!!! Also – the article doesn’t mention but are these low income housing as well?
    Either way it’s a TERRIBLE IDEA and will cripple that area with traffic FOREVER!

  7. A West Boca Community Center would b wonderful. We had one when I lived in Coconut creek. It has a gym, activities, movies, camp, etc. we need a place to gather not another commercial area. All it will do is add more congestion to an already deeply congested area.

  8. I, totally agreed. Not need for Movie thearer and commercial sites. We had enough at 441@Glades and sorrounding areas. I bet not far from today some developers will probably want to do something at the lot next to Best Buy. I hope not!!! just keep everything the way it is. Right now we have the best A+ school district in the county and all these new apartment projects are going to ruin all that . Les’t all call and do something about it. We the people deserve to rule about our area.

  9. Just called Berger’s office – spoke with staffer named Janet (very polite) who said they’ve gotten a lot of emails today on this. If anyone here hasn’t contacted her office, please do. Let them know you are against this. Get others (fam, neighbors etc to call/email as well). Numbers matter – Janet was obviously taking a tally. Thanks Warren for giving us the info!

  10. There is Crocker Partners and other developers plan to build as many as 2,500 condos and rental apartments near the Town Center mall on the west side of Boca Raton, Palmetto Promenade will feature 378 residential units. These are just 2 projects, there are more residential places being built. WHERE are all these people going to WORK??

  11. Newsflash people! Another theater existed where LA Fitness is years before you all came. The theater proposed in this development is a more upscale alternative to the trashy Regal across the street. I’d imagine it will be redeveloped too, especially as Best Buy and Old Navy are spiraling to bankruptcy. Also, the Jew compound south has buildings of comparable height. Unless we build more 90s-style suburban sprawl out into the Everglades and actually risk flooding, higher density urban infill redevelopment is the only way to allow the community to proper. It would be nice to see a landscape plan and renders ensuring Mizneresque architecture, but nothing yet to this plan is final.

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