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What’s Selling in West Boca? 33498 August

Below are specific reports by neighborhood covering home sales in July of 2019, along with current homes listed for sale. We previously wrote about home sales in the first half of 2019.

Boca Isles

Boca Isles sign; image by Google.

Ten homes sold in Boca Isles this July, with three in Boca Isles North and seven in Boca Isles South. That’s a busy month compared to twenty-two sales in the first six months.

The highest price was $720,000 for 10864 King Bay Drive, a renovated 3200 square foot 2-story 5-bedroom with a screened-in pool and lake view.

10864 King Bay Drive; image by Google.

The next highest price was in Boca Isles North, with 19184 Cloister Lake Lane selling for $665,000. It has 5 bedrooms in 3100 square feet.

Three more sold over $600,000, all in Boca Isles South. With 5 bedrooms each, 20029 Palm Island Drive sold for $657,500 and 10938 Bal Harbor Drive sold for $630,000. The 4-bedroom, 2900 square foot 19652 Biscayne Bay Drive sold for $615,000.

Three homes sold in the mid-$500K range, and two more homes sold below $500,000. The bottom was 19652 Biscayne Bay Drive at $450,000.

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Inventory is up in Boca Isles with 21 homes listed for sale (there were 18 last month). Only one house is listed over $700,000, a large (for Boca Isles) 6-bedroom with 3400 square feet all on one floor at 19239 Redberry Court. That’s in Boca Isles North.

At the low end three smaller homes (3 bedrooms with 2000-2100 square feet) are listed from $479,000 to $499,000.

Seven listings failed in the past 45 days, one expired and six canceled.


Saturnia entrance; image by Google.

It was a big month for Saturnia with six homes sold in July. That compares to only eight sold in the first six months of the year. The highest price, and the only one over $700,000, was 19565 Havensway Court at $775,000. The house has 6 bedrooms in 3500 square feet on one floor. It’s a cul-de-sac lot with a wide lake view.

Two 5-bedroom homes sold for $660,000 each at 19210 N Creekshore Court and 19090 W Two River Lane.

Three 4-bedroom homes sold between $550,000 and $575,000.

There are twelve homes listed for sale in Saturnia, down from twenty. Two are listed at $849,000, both on Natures View Court. Three more are listed at $749,000. The biggest bargain of those is 19219 N Creekshore Court with 5 bedrooms in over 4700 square feet. It has lots of updates and a screened in pool, but no water view.

All the other homes are listed at $659,000 or below. The low end listing is $499,500 for 19042 Skyridge Circle, a 4 bedroom with 2800 square feet.

Six listings failed in the past 45 days, 3 of them canceled and 3 expired.

Boca Greens

Boca Greens entrance from US-441; image by Google.

Only one house sold in Boca Greens in July. 10567 Fenway Place sold for $435,000 with 4 bedrooms in 2000 square feet. Twenty-two sold in the first half of 2019.

There are fourteen homes listed for sale at the moment with prices from $350,000 to $600,000. Six listings failed recently including four listings canceled and two expired.

The Shores

Entrance to The Shores; image by Google.

Three homes sold in The Shores at Boca Raton in July:

  • $585,000 – 18715 Ocean Mist Drive, 5 beds with 3400 sq.ft.
  • $526,000 – 11350 Sea Grass Circle, 3 bedrooms in 2800 sq.ft.
  • $515,000 – 11371 Sea Grass Circle, 5 beds in 3000 sq.ft.

There are four active listings at the moment, priced from $490,000 up to $609,000. One listing expired recently after 3 months on the market.

Lakes at Boca

18982 Adagio Drive sold for $400,000. Image by Google.

The Lakes at Boca Raton had a busy month with six sales, two of them at $400,000: 18982 Adagio Drive (4 bedrooms, 2700 sq.ft.) and 10532 Plainview Circle (3 bedrooms, 1700 sq.ft.).

The other four homes all sold for less, with the lowest at $307,500 for 10403 Sand Dollar Place, a small 3 bedroom with under 1300 sq.ft.

There are seven homes currently listed with 18618 Cape Sable Drive at $460,000. Four homes are listed at the identical price of $419,000, and two homes are listed under $400K. 10369 Islander Drive is the bargain at $365,000.

One listing failed. 18939 Red Coral Way expired after it sat on the market for a year without selling, and has relisted it. The owner has been trying to sell the house for over two years, sticking with the same Broward-based real estate agent. That choice might be an ethnic thing. Also the listing indicates it’s tenant-occupied which can make it harder to sell.

Boca Chase

Boca Chase West

Two homes sold in the western end of Boca Chase: 11080 Lakeaire for $385,000 with 4 bedrooms in under 2000 square feet; and 21291 Millbrook Court for $355,000 with 3 bedrooms in under 1700 square feet.

There are eight active listings in western Boca Chase. 18359 Coral Isles Drive is optimistically priced at $515,000. Two others are priced in the low $400Ks.

Four more are priced between $370,000 and $400,000, and one bank-owned home (foreclosure) is priced just under $300,000.

Boca Chase East

18360 103rd Trail S sold for $442,000 with 5 bedrooms in 2300 square feet; image by Google.

Three single family homes sold in the eastern half of Boca Chase, two in the low $400Ks and a smaller 3 bedroom for $365,000.

Two single family homes are listed for close to $400,000, and one townhome on Boca Way is listed for $285,000.


Two 2-bedroom villas sold on Lake Front Place for $190,000 each. That’s in Waterberry. There are ten units listed for sale with prices from $190,000 up to $325,000 for a single family home in Greenbriar.


It was a slow month with only one home sold in Stonebridge. 17713 Charnwood Drive fetched a pretty good price at $375,000. They had 20 sales in the first half of 2019.

There are 16 active listings in the community at the moment. Three listings canceled in the past 45 days.

Unfortunate Inspections

Three West Boca restaurants had the worst inspections in this week's report. A Chinese restaurant and a South American restaurant each had 22 violations, and a Mexican restaurant had 16. Two of them are on Glades Road, and one is on US-441.

We also have good news, with five restaurants getting near-perfect results.

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Cocaine Village: Drug Case in Century Village

We have over a dozen incidents to report involving West Boca residents, including a Century Village resident accused of selling cocaine. Boca Del Mar had a few incidents along with Sandalfoot Cove and Mission Bay.

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Red Flag Laws Are Racist and Unnecessary

Red flag gun control cases are being applied in a racist manner here in Palm Beach County. We looked at how the new law is working and found racism and some other problems. As a side note we noticed that one case involved the son of a prominent local doctor harassing a family member of a famous athlete.

See our previous article – Problems with Red Flag Laws

The “red flag” law in Florida is titled Risk Protection Orders. Sheriff Rick Bradshaw recently claimed the law is working. But for whom?

We looked at the twenty most recent “risk protection” cases. Eighteen of the people targeted were white. Only two were black.

There have been a total of 54 risk protection petitions filed in Palm Beach County.

This is a county where 50% of the arrests – and 80% of the felony arrests – are of black people.

At first blush you might see this as racism against whites, but when you understand how it works in practice it’s used to favor white defendants.

Criminal Cases

Sixteen of the twenty petitions involved criminal behavior. A risk protection order is completely unnecessary if the subject is prosecuted.

Description of the criminal behavior of a white man facing a risk protection petition in a recent Palm Beach County case.

If someone is arrested and charged with a crime, the judge can order that their firearms (and other weapons) be taken away while the charge is pending. If they’re convicted and they go to jail they can’t have any weapons in jail. If they’re put on probation, not having weapons is a condition of probation.

In other words, in cases where the subject of a risk petition committed a crime, risk protection orders are unnecessary.

So where’s the racism? In some cases risk protection petitions are filed instead of filing criminal charges. In cases where criminal charges are filed, the risk protection proceeding is used as a bargaining chip. If the defendant consents to a risk protection order, he gets a better deal on his criminal case.

While these petitions are still rare, risk protection proceedings are more likely to be used with white defendants and in the end they are used to protect whites from the other consequences of their crimes.

Criminal convictions can put defendants on the federal list for background checks, stopping them from buying guns legally. According to the Giffords Law Center: “Most NICS denials are due to felony or misdemeanor convictions.”

A risk protection order does not put the person on the federal background check list so it does less to stop them from getting guns in the future than a conviction.

Other Problems

Going through these petitions, it is generally obvious that we don’t want these people to have guns. But the use of risk protection petitions to get there is dubious. Here’s a great example from a Boca Raton PD petition:

We can probably all agree we don’t want this guy to have a gun. But when someone threatens to shoot any police officer who comes to his door, sending police officers to his door seems like a dangerous approach to the problem.

This individual faced a risk protection petition, but no criminal charge was filed against him even though he could have been charged for making a written threat to kill. And yes, he’s white.

Delayed Emergency

From a due process standpoint one of the most interesting things about these petitions is the use of the emergency proceeding. The risk protection statute allows for a regular petition where the supposedly dangerous person is notified in advance of the proceeding and can participate in the initial hearing before guns are take away. It also allows for an emergency petition where the police go to a judge “ex parte” – without notice to the individual or a chance to participate.

Of the twenty petitions we reviewed, every single one of them was done as an ex parte emergency. But they weren’t really emergencies. On average the petitions were filed about ten days after the incident that was the basis of the proceeding. Six of the petitions were filed two or more weeks afterward.

If it’s really an emergency that this person shouldn’t have guns, the petition should be filed right away. If it’s not filed right away, it’s obviously not an emergency and judges should refuse to grant the temporary relief.

Judges did say no to temporary relief for two of these petitions, but it doesn’t appear that delay was a reason, and it’s not listed as a factor in the statute. So far we only see one petition where the final order was denied. Three are still pending.

Baker Act

Twelve of the petitions either involve Baker Act proceedings or, on our review, Baker Act proceedings could have been initiated. The Baker Act is a Florida statute that allows for courts to order a person to get a mental health examination and put them in inpatient treatment if necessary. That person would not have access to guns during the process.

A Baker Act finding that someone has a mental illness should put that person on the NICS background check list. Florida has not been good about following through on this, but using risk protection petitions is even less effective because the result doesn’t qualify for the background check program.

In every single petition we reviewed, the matter could have been resolved – and guns taken away – either through criminal prosecution or a Baker Act proceeding. So it appears the red flag law accomplishes nothing in terms of making us safer from dangerous people.

Family and Roommates

Another flaw in the red flag law approach is its inability to deal with people who live in the same home as the dangerous person. In one case the subject lived with his father. In another the subject lived with his girlfriend. In each of these two the other resident asserted that at least some of the guns in the home were theirs and did not agree to give them up.

The statute doesn’t give police or the courts the authority to take guns away from them, and it also does not give authority to take the subject out of that home. Criminal prosecution and Baker Act proceedings can both address this situation. Red flag laws do not.

The Famous Athlete

To be fair to the athlete and his family, who have done nothing wrong, we will not name names. But this is the language from that incident:

Following what we have seen in other cases, this white son of a prominent doctor was not charged with any crime. This is despite having a 2016 felony arrest for assault with a deadly weapon after he threatened his father with a handgun.

The female victim is a family member of a famous athlete, and the subject and his father are friends of the athlete’s family.

So far we are not seeing police using Florida’s red flag law to go after outspoken politicians or activists. That may be a legitimate fear sometime in the future but it’s not what’s happening now.

Red flag laws lack the due process protections of other proceedings and are less effective than the tools we already have. And of course, they are applied in racist manner to protect white people from the consequences of their criminal behavior, while black people do not get the same benefit.

See our previous article about problems with red flag laws.

Problems With Red Flag Laws

The latest rage in gun control circles is so-called “Red Flag” laws. The idea is supposed to be that guns can be taken away from people who pose some kind of threat to the public.

There are multiple problems with these laws. The biggest concerns relate to vagueness, due process, and misleading language. President Trump’s suggestion that CNN anchor Chris Cuomo could be subject to a red flag law demonstrates these flaws.

See our new article: Red Flag Laws Are Racist

What are red flag laws? As Wikipedia puts it:

In the United States, a red flag law is a gun violence prevention law that permits police or family members to petition a state court to order the temporary removal of firearms from a person who may present a danger to others or themselves.

One of the most common practical terms used to describe these laws is that they authorize courts to issue “extreme risk protection orders.” That’s how gun control group Giffords describes them. It’s the word “extreme” that’s misleading.

Florida has adopted such a law. The statute avoids use of the word extreme, but it was used in the bill analysis the legislature relied upon. Other gun control groups continue to use the “extreme risk” language in describing Florida’s statute.

This is the biggest problem with the Florida law, and many other such laws. They are not about “extreme risk” at all. The Florida statute, titled Risk Protection Orders, doesn’t require that any such risk be extreme. Washington State’s law (RCW 7.94.030) does use the word extreme, but similar to Florida uses the actual standard “significant danger.”

Florida statute, 790.401, uses somewhat inconsistent language, but the general idea is that the supposedly dangerous person will have their guns taken away if they pose a “significant danger of causing personal injury to himself or herself or others by having a firearm.”

The statute authorizes a temporary order where the accused’s rights are taken away without any notice. The standard for a judge when faced with this is:

If a court finds there is reasonable cause to believe that the respondent poses a significant danger of causing personal injury to himself or herself or others in the near future by having in his or her custody or control, or by purchasing, possessing, or receiving, a firearm or ammunition, the court must issue a temporary ex parte risk protection order.

Reasonable cause is a very low standard, and significant danger is vague. The statute provides a list of factors for the judge to consider and this contributes to the vagueness and lack of standards.

Some of the factors are particularly dubious:

The first two factors:

  1. A recent act or threat of violence by the respondent against himself or herself or others, whether or not such violence or threat of violence involves a firearm.
  2. An act or threat of violence by the respondent within the past 12 months, including, but not limited to, acts or threats of violence by the respondent against himself or herself or others.

We’re already in vague territory here. What counts as violence? What counts as a threat? And why have one factor for recent and another that goes back 12 months?

If you think this is a trivial issue, consider the recent incident with Chris Cuomo. He threatened to throw a man down the stairs. That is a clear threat of violence.

Factor 3 in the Florida statute addresses mental health:

3. Evidence of the respondent being seriously mentally ill or having recurring mental health issues.

Chris Cuomo has admitted to having mental health issues and that it was a recurring problem – start around 2:09 in this CNN video – “many layers of my life for many years.”

So we already have two factors in the statute suggesting that Chris Cuomo could be subject to a red flag order.

Let’s turn to Factor 9: “The unlawful or reckless use, display, or brandishing of a firearm by the respondent.”

It’s hard to argue with the term “unlawful”, but reckless is open to interpretation. There have been at least two incidents where schools suspended students for posting gun range photos on social media, one involving high school students and another involving a college student. If they’re enough to get you suspended from school, that seems enough to count as reckless.

Then there’s Factor 12: “Corroborated evidence of the abuse of controlled substances or alcohol by the respondent.”

Why is this in the statute? I follow news of mass shootings and I don’t remember one where the shooter was noted for having an alcohol or substance abuse problem that was thought to have contributed to the shooting.

And what counts as abuse? I have a friend who drinks more than I do, and sometimes I think he drinks too much. Does that count? Marijuana is another problem. Many of us think that there’s nothing wrong with marijuana use, but others feel that any use of marijuana is abuse. Many years ago I handled a child custody case where the judge held the father’s use of marijuana against him.

Even proper prescription drug use could be considered abuse by a judge in one of these proceedings, especially in the early stage where the accused has not received any notice.

Next we have Factor 13: “Evidence of recent acquisition of firearms or ammunition by the respondent.”

This is disturbing. Maybe it makes sense for a person who doesn’t already own firearms. But what about someone who already has 5 guns and a thousand rounds of ammunition. Why would buying one more gun, or some ammo, indicate a risk?

Some readers at this point may be concerned about someone having a thousand rounds of ammunition. Gun owners buy ammunition in larger quantities for the same reason people shop at BJ’s and Costco. If you go to the range once a week and shoot 100 rounds, you’ll go through 1000 rounds in 2 1/2 months. I did an all-day training session at Florida Firearms Traning and went through close to a thousand rounds.

If that’s not bad enough, we then get to the most vague catch-all factors:

14. Any relevant information from family and household members concerning the respondent.
15. Witness testimony, taken while the witness is under oath, relating to the matter before the court.

Those are so wide open that anything can be said and could qualify to get such an order.

This brings us back to the standard for a judge to consider: “reasonable cause to believe that the respondent poses a significant danger.”

This makes it far too easy for a judge to take away a person’s rights, with no meaningful standards.

To be fair, we can be hopeful that most police agencies will not abuse this power and will apply it to the right circumstances. This is an example from Boca Raton PD that makes sense:

Of course with this one it’s not clear how sending police to the door of someone who is planning to shoot cops through the door is a wise plan. But it appears this was handled well.

In other good news we see a case from Jupiter PD in June where Judge Dina Keever-Agrama denied a temporary order. We’ve liked her for a long time.

Related due process concerns remain troubling. The accused can have his rights and guns taken away with no notice or opportunity to be heard. Then the accused can request a hearing, but “no sooner than 14 days and no later than 30 days.” You can’t get a hearing for at least two weeks and maybe as long as a month later.

At that hearing the accused has to prove he’s not a significant danger, and “by clear and convincing evidence.” That’s a much higher standard than the “reasonable cause” standard used to take rights away.

Another related due process concern is the law has regular orders where the accused gets notice in advance, along with temporary ex parte orders with no notice. Are the regular orders used at all? Has anyone kept statistics on how many of these orders were done with notice as opposed to without?

In a brief review of some cases in Palm Beach County and Broward County, every case is filed seeking the emergency temporary order. In one Broward case the “emergency” petition wasn’t filed until two weeks after the incident that prompted it, and that petition was granted even though it obviously was no longer an emergency. That seems to be a pattern in the few cases we have reviewed. If it’s an emergency, the petition should be filed right away. If it’s not filed right away, it’s not an emergency.

This might seem a minor detail, but police in one county can pursue an order against an accused in a different county. So the accused has to defend himself in a distant court. Why would this be part of the law? Why not insist that the petition come from the accused’s home county law enforcement and in his home county courts?

If al that isn’t enough, consider the use of the term “red flag”, a prominent communist symbol. President Trump’s suggestion that red flag laws could be used to disarm a political/media opponent like Chris Cuomo shows the danger.

See our new article: Red Flag Laws Are Racist